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Hawaii is, in fact, a ****ing State. - artistshipper
Hawaii is, in fact, a ****ing State.
So all you whiny mainlanders claiming Obama isn't a US citizen can STFU already.  Yes, they are still going on about that. [0]

Seriously, I know conspiracy series are pretty whack, but one that claims the friggin' atlas is wrong takes the cake.  Hawaii has been a state since 1959, and US territory since 1897.  Yes, we've been flying the red white and blue for OVER A  CENTURY NOW.

Remember World War Two?  Remember why the US got involved?  That's right, Japan bombed our naval base at PEARL HARBOR, HAWAII.

And yet 5% of North Carolinans don't believe Hawaii is a state, according to a poll [1].  I bet they're mostly the same people who can't find the US of A on an Atlas.  UGH.

Anyone born on US soil is an US citizen [2].  Hawaii has been US soil for over a century.  FRIGGIN' DEAL ALREADY.

Sometimes I find humanity depressing.

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havocthecat From: havocthecat Date: September 2nd, 2009 03:54 pm (UTC) (Link)
I...am going to go about my day and pretend that everyone knows that Hawaii is a state, because otherwise my faith in the fact that people aren't irredeemably stupid is going to be totally shattered.

Ugh, God, people, LEARN TO READ A MAP. Or a history book. Or something.
artistshipper From: artistshipper Date: September 3rd, 2009 03:42 am (UTC) (Link)
I suspect in more than a few cases, "LEARN TO READ" would be sufficient.

I find the lack of interest in reading in general to be rather sad.
bellatemple From: bellatemple Date: September 2nd, 2009 04:57 pm (UTC) (Link)
. . . At least they're willing to admit he was born in Hawaii?

I've seen protest signs reading "Obama go home (to Kenya)!" So unless they're convinced Hawaii is part of Kenya. . . .

Yeah. Sometimes humanity is pretty depressing.
artistshipper From: artistshipper Date: September 3rd, 2009 03:43 am (UTC) (Link)
Some people think he was born in kenya. How they got that idea, I have no idea...
eternitian From: eternitian Date: September 3rd, 2009 01:00 am (UTC) (Link)
I believe the theory is that his mother was denied flight back to Hawaii because she was too pregnant, and he was therefore born while in Kenya to one Kenyan parent and one American parent. And since his mother was under a certain age at the time (can't remember what the age is supposed to be), his father's nationality is the one that counts.

Yeah, kind of far-fetched. A Hawaiian birth certificate would clear it up, but to the best of my knowledge, no one has come forward with one.

Maybe there are schools of thought stating that Obama isn't a citizen because he was born in Hawaii, but the argument presented (sloppily and hap-hazardly) above is the only one I've heard.

And... that thing about North Carolina... makes me sad to be an American.
eternitian From: eternitian Date: September 3rd, 2009 01:12 am (UTC) (Link)

Fact-checking, if the internet is allowable as evidence. The above arguement presented more clearly and in greater detail, followed by a rebuttal in which a birth certificate is produced and determined to be authentic.

Also, Philip Berg, the gentleman who filed the lawsuit in the first place, is the same lawyer who sued Bush the Second and others, claiming that they were a party the the terrorist attacks of 9-11-01. Quite the bi-partisan activist, isn't he?
artistshipper From: artistshipper Date: September 3rd, 2009 03:38 am (UTC) (Link)
Yeah, we have his birth certificate. Unlike some states Hawaii doesn't hand it out to just anyone, because we're not fond of identity theft.

Furthermore, even if he were born in Kenya, his mother's nationality would be taken into account and she could easily have arranged to have him get US citizenship. In most cases, the child of a US citizen can get US citizenship on that basis even if born elsewhere.

But that's all moot since he was born in Hawaii.
From: arkeus Date: October 15th, 2009 07:55 am (UTC) (Link)
indeed, a child of a US citizent can take US citizenships before 18 in all cases, and can do so after if the US parent actually lived in Us longer than a certain number of years (3 i think).

And, yeah, i am late.
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